"Maxima Speed" (maximaspeed)
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"Maxima Speed" (maximaspeed)
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CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> Maxima Speed
10/07/2018 at 16:30 |
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20 people? shiiit.
ttyymmnn
> Maxima Speed
10/07/2018 at 16:38 |
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It’s my understanding that the majority, if not all, of the victims were standing outside a store, and the accident caused the limo to plow into the crowd.
Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> ttyymmnn
10/07/2018 at 16:38 |
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I read somewhere that 18 were killed in the limo, and 2 were bystanders.
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Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> ttyymmnn
10/07/2018 at 16:39 |
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/ntsb-probes-fatal-crash-involving-limo-multiple-deaths-143025082.html
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Maxima Speed
> ttyymmnn
10/07/2018 at 16:40 |
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I have zero trust in Washington posts reporting but they said that 18 people were in the car. 2 were outside.
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Maxima Speed
> CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
10/07/2018 at 16:41 |
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Limos apperently still have zero crash protection.
Berang
> Maxima Speed
10/07/2018 at 16:43 |
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Every occupant of the limo killed? No seatbelts? Does nt say how fast they were going, but it must have be en flying.
KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Maxima Speed
10/07/2018 at 16:48 |
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This is so sad.
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CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> Maxima Speed
10/07/2018 at 16:53 |
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“zero trust in Washington posts reporting”
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Berang
10/07/2018 at 17:21 |
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Yes all of them died. All 18 + 2 pedestrians. Looks like over 60MPH according to witnesses
Mr. Tavenner said the site of the accident was a notoriously dangerous spot, a “nasty intersection” that transportation officials had tried to fix in the past without success. “I honestly think it was a more dangerous intersection than it was before,” he said.
Route 30 leads steeply downhill to a T-intersection with Route 30A, marked with a stop sign.
Ms. Kirby also said the intersection was dangerous. “We’ve had three tractor-trailer type vehicles — they come down that hill too fast, they go though our parking lot and they end up in a field behind our business,” she said.
This is the spot. Based on pic you can see how it came downhill from the right overshot the intersection and ended up in the ravine next to the Apple Barrel Gift shop on the left
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
10/07/2018 at 17:27 |
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Eh, I don’t know man. Perhaps they need to win a Pulitzer or two and other kinds of journalism awards to really prove themselves and not be considered Fake News these days...Oh wait.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prizes_won_by_The_Washington_Post
Brian McKay
> Maxima Speed
10/07/2018 at 17:35 |
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Who needs passenger restraints?
( passengers)
ranwhenparked
> Maxima Speed
10/07/2018 at 17:39 |
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Passengers probably weren't wearing seatbelts, and cutting a car in half and inserting a new center section is never going to do wonders for the original crash structures.
someassemblyrequired
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/07/2018 at 17:54 |
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You can see the scars of the original road alignment in the overhead shot, but if you force streetview into showing you the 2008 version of the road, you can see that the road originally went into a long left turn approaching the turn, instead of coming to a T - the Apple Barrel is the red roofed building on the left :
So yeah, I think the original alignment might have helped at least reduce the severity of this crash
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Maxima Speed
> ranwhenparked
10/07/2018 at 17:57 |
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I wonder why no one makes dedicated stretch limos?
SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> ranwhenparked
10/07/2018 at 18:01 |
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The image I saw of the crashed limo suggested that it was still in one piece and was not as badly damaged as my imagination suspected..
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ttyymmnn
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/07/2018 at 18:23 |
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I’ve been reading the WaPo for 25 years. I trust their reporting, but I have grown tired of their “the sky is falling” tone, even if the sky is, in fact, falling.
fintail
> CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
10/07/2018 at 18:34 |
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Left wing conspiracy Bezos deep state etc
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> ttyymmnn
10/07/2018 at 18:36 |
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Honestly, I don’t even read any newspaper articles unless they are linked somewhere. But usually WaPO and NYT end up being the ones most linked across the internet .
As for actual news, I just stick to ABC/CBS/Reuters,and BBC for international news. What I DO trust is this chart
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> someassemblyrequired
10/07/2018 at 18:37 |
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That’s a good observation. Hopefully they change something drastic after this tragedy.
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fintail
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/07/2018 at 18:43 |
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Not to mention how they helped bring down what was the most corrupt regime in American history (before the current gang of swamp critters).
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someassemblyrequired
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/07/2018 at 19:09 |
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Yeah it really depends on whether it was a mechanical issue vs a health issue or inattention as to whether it would affected the outcome for the victims in the limo . But it probably would have protected the people outside the limo at least.
BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
> ranwhenparked
10/07/2018 at 19:46 |
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I haven’t seen images of the crashed vehicle, but I can imagine a 2001 Expy limo had best abouts 400k miles on it and the frame was 50% or more rusted out. No way it was anywhere close to structurally sufficient.
Dusty Ventures
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/07/2018 at 19:49 |
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Reminds me of the 2005 Avon Mountain crash in CT
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ranwhenparked
> Maxima Speed
10/07/2018 at 19:53 |
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They sort of used to. Not stretch limos exactly, but the more tasteful kind. I think the Fleetwood Limousine was the last one from a domestic automaker.
Even those weren’t perfect. The fact that the front doors popped open shows that there was still more deformation in the front seat area than normal.
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ranwhenparked
> SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
10/07/2018 at 19:54 |
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Probably more lack of seatbelts combined with debris flying around in the cabin.
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Dusty Ventures
10/07/2018 at 19:56 |
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Shit like this happens in third world countries all the time. I am all for stringent regulations(and enforcement thereof) and inspections on commercial vehicles.
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Maxima Speed
> CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
10/07/2018 at 21:24 |
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Most of their stuff is super clickbaity, and it always seems like there are errors in them. Just poor reporting. Call me crazy but I’d almost take buzzfeed over Washington post.
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someassemblyrequired
> Dusty Ventures
10/07/2018 at 22:19 |
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Reading the article I couldn’t fig
ure out why the driver never used the runaway ramp as you approach
Route
10 (I lived in CT for a few years from 2010-14). But looking back through streetview, it seems it was added as a result of the crash. Even still, there’s a pretty good berm on the left
before you get down to the Avon Old Farms H
otel where you
could slow yourself down pretty quick
. I can’t figure out why you wouldn’t just bite it further up the hill rather than take your chances at the bottom, but it’s easy to second guess after the fact
.
In any case, it d oes seem like pretty much the same scenario, especially if it was a braking failure.
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someassemblyrequired
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
10/07/2018 at 22:23 |
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CT does not mess around with commercial vehicle inspections - they are actually very strict and have a substantial presence. I used to see them hauling over trucks (CT registered and out of state)
all the time on the way to work, and they cannot be driven again until they are repaired.
Sadly it didn’t help in this case, even though it sounds like the truck was cited for a number of violations the year prior and removed from service until they were repaired
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SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> ranwhenparked
10/07/2018 at 22:27 |
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Other people are inappropriate airbags.
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Dusty Ventures
> someassemblyrequired
10/07/2018 at 22:41 |
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Turns out the owner of the trucking company was shady as fuck. Tons of inspection citations and one news outlet said he’d actually pulled the insurance from the truck in the crash even though it was still in use. After the crash he plead guilty to two charges of manslaughter, five charges of assault, and no contest to insurance fraud. Did six years in prison (original sentence was ten years), got out, then was sent back a year or so ago for violating his parole by doing cocaine. All the company’s assets were also seized and auctioned off to pay the victims.
And in response to your other comment, according to an article I’m reading now about the owner going back to jail the driver of the truck was “an inexperienced driver.” Which could certainly explain why he didn’t have the awareness to bail it off the road
. The article also says not only did the brakes fail, but “the truck’s clutch and transmission disintegrated.” It also mentions bad tires. It sounds like this wasn’t a case of “if” but of “when.”
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someassemblyrequired
> Dusty Ventures
10/07/2018 at 22:46 |
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Jeez. That would be a horrible set of circumstances to face as a newbie driver
- no engine braking, no brakes and very few good options. Glad the company owner is rotting in jail.